Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 Dock

Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 Dock Review – #Donglelife Simplified

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Introduction

Apple’s obsession with the “less is more” philosophy has reached an epic level. When the Thunderbolt 3 MacBook Pro lineup was introduced in late 2016, many decried the imposition of dongle life. The outrage was real. For most customers, fewer ports mean more costs. When your new Mac laptop only has USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 connectivity, your existing peripherals need dongles and plenty of them. Even the mighty Apple felt bad enough to offer an early-adopter discount on many USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 adapters. People cried a bit less, but the pain still lingered.

Apple Thunderbolt 3/USB-C adapters vs. Mantiz Titan

Apple Thunderbolt 3/USB-C adapters vs. Mantiz Titan

Eighteen months have passed since the Thunderbolt 3 MacBook Pro launch. While computer peripherals with USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 connectivity are increasingly common, there’s still the hassle and expense of making sure you have the right adapters for travel. Enter the Mantiz Titan, a Thunderbolt 3 docking solution that works as hard at home as it does on the road. The design aesthetic and matching space gray finish of this dock show its intention of being an inseparable companion to the MacBook Pro.

Hardware Specifics

Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 Dock

Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 Dock

Specifications
Price US$
$229
PSU location-type
external-AC
PSU max power 120W
Power delivery (PD)
87W
Expansion Ports
2x DP 1.2, 1x HDMI 2.0a, 1x VGA
2x USB 3.0, 1x Ethernet
TB3 USB-C ports 1
Ports max bandwidth 5Gbps
Size (in/mm, LxWxH)
7.68 x 2.36 x 0.79
195 x 60 x 20
Weight (kg/lb) 0.39/0.87
Updated firmware 29.1 ✔
TB3 cable length (cm) 50
Vendor page link

The Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 dock is a handsome piece of kit. The diminutive footprint fits nicely in the palm of your hand. Similar to the Venus eGPU enclosure, this Titan TB3 dock is constructed using aluminum and is anodized in space gray to match the finish of Apple’s newest “pro” Macs. The bottom cover is a light gray rubberized layer to keep the dock planted on a desk surface. It feels very similar to the rubber bottom of the retired white unibody MacBook. Mantiz managed to get the look and feel within striking distance of the MacBook Pro.

My only criticism is the panel gaps between the ports and their cutouts. Keep in mind my media sample is not the final production unit. The white line markings over Ethernet, VGA, DP2, HDMI, and USB 2 will be removed in the final product. These markings serve to indicate the ports that don’t require the use of the power adapter. Unfortunately Intel & Apple did not sanction this USB bus-powered mode. Therefore the production units can only work with the power adapter plugged in. A nice accessory that comes with this TB3 dock is the microfiber carrying pouch. It’s roomy enough to store the dock and its half meter Thunderbolt 3 cable.

fits in the hand = travel friendly

fits in the hand = travel friendly

Mantiz Titan bottom cover & carrying pouch

bottom cover & carrying pouch

At the front of the dock is the sole Thunderbolt 3 port. All expansion ports are in the rear. The first time I saw the layout, I immediately asked about the need for VGA output instead of DVI. Mantiz mentioned VGA is still a widely-used projector input. Apple itself has a USB-C adapter with VGA output. Mantiz more than made up for including an analog video output by providing three digital video output ports in the form of two DisplayPort 1.2 and one HDMI 2.0a. The Titan is capable of handling two 4K @ 60Hz monitors simultaneously by connecting both DisplayPorts or DisplayPort + HDMI port.

The data transmission expansion ports are two USB-A 3.0 and one gigabit Ethernet port. I wish there were more than two USB ports. The LAN port is nice to have, but a memory card slot would have been more beneficial. The SD slot was one of the more useful I/O in the retina MacBook Pro lineup. Furthest to the right of the rear I/O ports is the power plug. The Mantiz Titan comes with a 120W power adapter (19V 6.32A). This power brick is similar in volume to the dock but shorter and wider. Mantiz chose this PSU in order to provide 87W power delivery to match the requirement of the 15″ Thunderbolt 3 MacBook Pro.

Rear I/O without plugging in AC adapter

Rear I/O arrangement

FSP 120W AC Power Adapter

FSP 120W AC Power Adapter

Testings & Benchmarks

I’ve been using this Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 dock for over a month. I took it on a three-day trip and got to use the dock in different arrangements. It really made Thunderbolt 3 technology look good. The two host computers I brought with were the late 2016 15″ Apple MacBook Pro and the 2017 12.5″ Toshiba Portege X20W-D. In short, the Mantiz Titan was essentially plug-and-play in both macOS High Sierra and Windows 10.

In Windows 10 [1709], there was no need to install any drivers. All functionalities of the Mantiz Titan Thunderbolt 3 dock worked as soon as I plugged it in. It was a pleasant surprise when macOS High Sierra [10.13.4] behaved the same way. I had concerns with whether the LAN port would work right out of the box. The Ethernet Controller is Intel I210 that works natively in macOS. Power delivery is confirmed at 87W as seen in macOS System Information » Power tree. I also checked the Thunderbolt version of this dock and it’s 29.1.

During testing of display outputs through the four available video ports, I learned about the two display channels and their arrangement. Channel 1 powers the VGA and DP2 ports while Channel 2 handles DP1 & HDMI ports. Each channel is only able to provide video output to one port at a time. For example, when you plug in VGA & DP2 concurrently, only DP2 will work. Similarly with channel 2, DP1 & HDMI inserted at the same time results in only DP1 having output. To get dual display output, you have to mix and match one port from each channel. Dual 4K @ 60Hz is only possible with the pairing of DP2 from channel 1 with either HDMI or DP1 from channel 2.

Another convenience Thunderbolt 3 technology has introduced is universal power delivery. I now only need to bring along the 120W power adapter for the Mantiz Titan. It can charge both of my TB3 laptops (and any Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C devices for that matter). This non-proprietary charging feature makes not having the MagSafe port on the latest MacBook Pro suck less. Due to no moving components, there’s no noise emission. On occasions, the top of the dock got warm to the touch but nothing was out of the ordinary.

Matching space gray anodized aluminum with MacBook Pro

matching space gray anodized aluminum with MBP

Works well with Toshiba X20W-D in Windows

works well with Toshiba X20W-D in Windows

A fair question to ask is what advantage a Thunderbolt 3 dock like this Mantiz Titan offers over a USB-C dock to demand the higher cost. Due to Thunderbolt 3’s much higher bandwidth compared to USB-C, there are two main advantages. The first is dual 4K @ 60Hz output. The second is concurrent use of two external solid state drives without one impinging on the other. Another extreme example would be the use alongside an external GPU. We’ve learned first generation eGPU enclosures with expansion I/O suffer from mouse and keyboard input lag. Connecting peripherals to a dedicated Thunderbolt 3 dock would afford full bandwidth for the external GPU and therefore maximize performance.

Conclusion

Taking the form of a Thunderbolt 3 expansion dock, the Mantiz Titan gives extra oomph to slender ultrabooks. It plays well with many peripherals and provides interconnectivity anywhere, anytime. Versatility is at the heart of the Mantiz Titan. At $219 MSRP [$189 group-buy], this TB3 dock is a great value as of spring 2018. Apple’s Thunderbolt 3 Macs have undoubtedly donglified the simple life. The Mantiz Titan helps in simplifying the dongle life.

 

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Jyin
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Can this run three displays at lower resolution than 4K? (Say 3x 1080p?).

J

Mymantiz_John
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According to the bandwidth limitation, 4K x 60HZ x 1 =16GB, Max will be only support to Dual 4K @ 60Hz.

Mymantiz_John
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We would like to host a group buy for 50 Members with the Price “$ 189 ” with free shipping to N.A, EU, Asia.
PM us, we will revert the coupon code.
Shipping: From April 26th.
email address: [email protected]

Eightarmedpet
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Posted by: Mymantiz_John
We would like to host a group buy for 50 Members with the Price “$ 189 ” with free shipping to N.A, EU, Asia.
PM us, we will revert the coupon code.
Shipping: From April 26th.
email address: [email protected]

Thats super decent of you guys! Sadly I dont actually need one. Beautiful design though, gives me yet more hope for your mini eGPU…

(my worst photoshop ever)



(please John)

Jyin
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Posted by: Mymantiz_John
According to the bandwidth limitation, 4K x 60HZ x 1 =16GB, Max will be only support to Dual 4K @ 60Hz.

But 1080p x 60Hz would only use 4GB, the bandwidth could allow 8 of those, right?

SE12897
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Posted by: Jyin

Posted by: Mymantiz_John
According to the bandwidth limitation, 4K x 60HZ x 1 =16GB, Max will be only support to Dual 4K @ 60Hz.

But 1080p x 60Hz would only use 4GB, the bandwidth could allow 8 of those, right?

The limitation would be of the dock itself.  I have a USB C to mDP adapter with 3 1080P screens with no issues. If one of those DPs supported DP++ then you could get a DP hub and do it that way.

Mymantiz_John
Member

Correct. But consider there are only two DO source from thunderbolt  chip so it could be only output two displays Maximum.

Eightarmedpet
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That would make a great mini eGPU chassis (if doubled in size roughly, and obviously designed to accommodate)!

ed_co
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It looks very good and NICE offer, and with nice specs, but there are things that I miss. Must have:  1) More USBs. I use a lot of USB devices. and 2 is definitely not enough for me (3 minimum, but 5 should be much better). 2) VGA?? I think is a waste of space/circuitry (for other things). This is a huge mistake from my POV. If you have TB3, you are not usually dealing with VGA stuff. I understand there are a lot of projectors with VGA if you are going to do conferences in some universities/venues, but this… Read more »

Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: ed_co It looks very good and NICE offer, and with nice specs, but there are things that I miss. Must have:  1) More USBs. I use a lot of USB devices. and 2 is definitely not enough for me (3 minimum, but 5 should be much better). 2) VGA?? I think is a waste of space/circuitry (for other things). This is a huge mistake from my POV. If you have TB3, you are not usually dealing with VGA stuff. I understand there are a lot of projectors with VGA if you are going to do conferences in some… Read more »

Daelin
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i agree, this specs are not useful for for me either. and i’m sad to hear that there are technical considerations why it was not designed more useful.
it seems to me this product was designed in a way to satisfy easy of building instead of cover the needs of users. as OWC shows it is absolute possible to build such a dock: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/thunderbolt-3-dock

furthermore i guess most users here are not in an asia region or wont carry around a tb3 dock for presentations on a old vga beamer. for that dongles are much better suitable!

Yukikaze
Member

If it were a combo power brick and TB3 dock I’d be a lot more impressed. That way you could just carry it in place of any chargers/power bricks and then it would live up to its promise.

ed_co
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Posted by: Mymantiz_John 1. Wish we can design more USB, but all USB actually are sharing the 5G USB 3.1 Gen1. and we also need to consider about the power consumption 4.5W/PerUSB, we dont want to be too large for the adapter.  2. VGA is for the office some old projectors. still popular in Asia.  3. I specially remove the Daisy chain and make it to be another DP. Certainly the Daisy Chain type C port can be output to a 5K display directly but according to the Thunderblt 40GB bandwidth in total, it means it will be only output… Read more »

Mymantiz_John
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I appreciate with your opinion, even there’re many things had been over thunderbolt design guide line.

SE12897
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Posted by: Mymantiz_John
Correct. But consider there are only two DO source from thunderbolt  chip so it could be only output two displays Maximum.

How so?

Jyin
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Yeah, if this thing had 3 DP, or even 2 DP + 1 USB-C (So I can run triple, FreeSync), it would have been an insta-buy.
J

Mymantiz_John
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Thunderbolt design will be with few configurations.
Config 1: DP + Type C upstream 
Config 2: DP + DP 
so, there won’t be a DP+ DP + Type C upstream port. which is out of the design from the Thunderbolt chip.

SE12897
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I know this config works. TB3 > TB2 adapter > Akitio with 970 > WD my DUO  > mDP to DP HUB x3. I drive 3 x 1080p displays plus 2 from the 970 just fine. This config also works USBc > mDP adapter > mDP to DP hub. I also have a TB3 dock that I can also test my USBc mDP adapter on but I have no worries about that working either as long as I don’t go over the 3 Display limit of my Intel HD 620. That’s why Im always so confused why you can’t find a… Read more »

dblgnet
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I will just chime in to agree with some above posters – there’s no need for a TB3 dock to have VGA. If you’ve got a TB3 laptop & a VGA-only projector you’re hooking up to then you probably should have spent your $200 on a new projector. If you’re at the office & need to hook up to a VGA projector in a conference room, you’re not lugging your dock (with power supply) from your desk to the conference room. Additional requirement for me from a product like this will be a USB-C port w/ Power Delivery so iPhone… Read more »

4chip4
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As someone who does a lot of conf room shuffling around – in that context the intent is not to carry your dock around, but to have it as a budget-friendly “presenter dock”. You walk in the meeting room, plug in the TB3 connector, and you get power, video (even if it’s a crummy VGA) and network through a single dock. USB-C to HDMI/Displayport is always easier to find than VGA, which will be a big active dongle if done separately. That eliminates a whole lot of setting up/forgotten charger/cable time. So while I understand that a VGA-out is not… Read more »

ed_co
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Posted by: 4chip4 As someone who does a lot of conf room shuffling around – in that context the intent is not to carry your dock around, but to have it as a budget-friendly “presenter dock”. You walk in the meeting room, plug in the TB3 connector, and you get power, video (even if it’s a crummy VGA) and network through a single dock. USB-C to HDMI/Displayport is always easier to find than VGA, which will be a big active dongle if done separately. That eliminates a whole lot of setting up/forgotten charger/cable time. So while I understand that a… Read more »

Guest

why cant this device use apple power brick(thunderbolt 3) instead of proprietary one….?

Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: Girish Nanjangud
why cant this device use apple power brick(thunderbolt 3) instead of proprietary one….?

The logic is simple, 13″ MBP is with 60W Type C adatper and 15″ is with 87W. We really like to save the cost not to bundle an AC adapter, but since this device supply 87W to the laptop, how will a 13″ MBP use its 60W charger to make Mantiz Titan work. So, finally we gave up to use type C charger.

Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: ha1o2surfer I know this config works. TB3 > TB2 adapter > Akitio with 970 > WD my DUO  > mDP to DP HUB x3. I drive 3 x 1080p displays plus 2 from the 970 just fine. This config also works USBc > mDP adapter > mDP to DP hub. I also have a TB3 dock that I can also test my USBc mDP adapter on but I have no worries about that working either as long as I don’t go over the 3 Display limit of my Intel HD 620. That’s why Im always so confused why you… Read more »

Mymantiz_John
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Posted by: Jyin Yeah, if this thing had 3 DP, or even 2 DP + 1 USB-C (So I can run triple, FreeSync), it would have been an insta-buy. J it wont be possible in thunderbolt architecture. Each TB3 chip had contained two DP source, there will be several kinds of configuration in designs, TB3 chip –2 x DP sources or TB3 chip -1DP + 1 Type C ( that type C can be output to a DP or Type C downstream port )  Mantiz Titan we used the TB3 chip–2 x DP source, it means, if any user who… Read more »

Mymantiz_John
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Posted by:

it is not for cost saving consideration. The point is, 
1. 13″ user cannot use their stock charger. ( PD 87W for laptop , 2 USB =10w, Thunderbolt chip & others are 20W approx ) total power consumption is about 117W. 
2. We’ve survey the type C adapter which is more than 100W, that’s not able to be found any. Biggest one we saw is 90W for the time bening.

Brian_
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I have just received my Mantiz Titan thunderbolt 3 dock, but unfortunately I cannot recommend it. The coil whine that this dock produces is insane. As soon as I plug it in the coil whine starts, and it does not stop or get any less annoying. It is a shame because otherwise this could have been a good product.

Daelin
Member

this is a really good price for a tb3 dock. but unfortunately it suffers the same drawback as most existing tb3 docks: only two usb ports. am i the only one who owns more usb peripherals?
on the other hand there are 4 display connectors, even a vga… common we are in 2018 no one needs vga!

furthermore connections that are missing and stat of the art:
-audio (analog and digital)
-cardreader

please consider next time to evaluate what connections are needed typically instead of building in whats technically easy/cheap!

Mymantiz_John
Member

Posted by: Daelin
this is a really good price for a tb3 dock. but unfortunately it suffers the same drawback as most existing tb3 docks: only two usb ports. am i the only one who owns more usb peripherals?
on the other hand there are 4 display connectors, even a vga… common we are in 2018 no one needs vga!
furthermore connections that are missing and stat of the art:
-audio (analog and digital)
-cardreader
please consider next time to evaluate what connections are needed typically instead of building in whats technically easy/cheap!





Is it the thing you want ??

Mymantiz_John
Member

Posted by: Brian_
I have just received my Mantiz Titan thunderbolt 3 dock, but unfortunately I cannot recommend it. The coil whine that this dock produces is insane. As soon as I plug it in the coil whine starts, and it does not stop or get any less annoying. It is a shame because otherwise this could have been a good product.

You can ask for the RMA from us. 
[email protected]

Mymantiz_John
Member

Posted by: Daelin i agree, this specs are not useful for for me either. and i’m sad to hear that there are technical considerations why it was not designed more useful. it seems to me this product was designed in a way to satisfy easy of building instead of cover the needs of users. as OWC shows it is absolute possible to build such a dock: https://www.owcdigital.com/products/thunderbolt-3-dock furthermore i guess most users here are not in an asia region or wont carry around a tb3 dock for presentations on a old vga beamer. for that dongles are much better suitable!… Read more »

ikir
Member

Titan is a dock for display with power and some connection, and if you keep this in minds it is awesome.

nando4
Admin

This dock is now available for purchase from Amazon for US$229.

aklmie
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Hi, It looks like this is a great product. I have two questions: – Does this dock limit the number of maximum displays that the MBP can drive? I ask this question because I own a Caldigt TS3+, 1 4K display, and 2 FHD ones. As soon as 1 plug my 4K display on the dock I can’t run the 3 displays simultaneously (the third is, of course, plugged directly on the MBP). The only configuration which works is: plug the 4K screen directly on the MBP then plug the dock with the 2 FHD. I plan to upgrade my… Read more »

joevt
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Posted by: Mymantiz_John Posted by: Jyin Yeah, if this thing had 3 DP, or even 2 DP + 1 USB-C (So I can run triple, FreeSync), it would have been an insta-buy. it wont be possible in thunderbolt architecture. Each TB3 chip had contained two DP source, there will be several kinds of configuration in designs, TB3 chip –2 x DP sources or TB3 chip -1DP + 1 Type C ( that type C can be output to a DP or Type C downstream port )  Mantiz Titan we used the TB3 chip–2 x DP source, it means, if any… Read more »